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  • Tren and Deca cycle?

    I've been looking at the theoretical side of things and thinking about how a High dose Deca and very low dose Tren E cycle would work, and here's my thinking. Running Deca without a low dose of test is a bit of a no-no if you want your dick to work, but in theory you could run Deca without test at approximately 600mg without estrogen sides. The only thing that would suffer is the lack of androgenicity. So if we introduce around 100mg of Tren E, with a 500 androgen rating, we are looking at more than enough to keep things working. Also, theoretically as esrogen would be quite low, prolactin/progesterone sides should be less prominent. Discuss?

  • #2
    I dont know why people want to cut out test altogether..
    Test is ur base
    Think.of it as ur bread to ur butter
    You need the bread to make a sandwich otherwise wont work will it...

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    • Poseidon
      Poseidon commented
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      Old schoolers with no education...
      Sorry but i aint gonna listen to some old schooler tht needs 300mg of viagra to even try n get it up..
      Why risk shutting down even ur natural testosterone for what?? Coz an old schooler told you so... scientists have prooven and done tests to all these theories...
      Im gonna think about my future not just today
      Sorry but i disagree
      Test is a must

    • Hertderg
      Hertderg commented
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      The idea, hence why I made it a discussion, was to cut out the estrogenic effects that come with testosterone. I have always used test as a base, this discussion is more to appease the mad scientist in me. In saying that, estrogen rebound from test is one of the major factors in recovery and PCT. Low blood Testosterone levels dont theoretically effect you if you have a high level of another androgenic compound in the
      blood. The idea is to find a cycle that is low on bloat, very anabolic, androgenic enough to keep everything working well, and very low on estrogen sides. If we could find something like that, wouldn't it be great?

    • Clara
      Clara commented
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      can't agree any more.

  • #3
    Test is not a must

    Run deca with the tren only, don't listen to people who talk without ever trying it for themselves. Its all word of mouth from gym rat to gym rat.

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    • #4
      100mg of deca injected Once reduces endogenous test by 50% within 3 days and nearly 100% within a week
      Imagine pumping 600mg a week or a gram like some people claiming..

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      • Spidee
        Spidee commented
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        Injecting testosterone reduces endogenous test the same also!!!

      • Hertderg
        Hertderg commented
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        The Deca shutdown myth is exacerbated by high prolactin/progestrone. It actually only shuts you down about the same as test, if the other factors are kept in check. The other factors are exacerbated by high test levels. Like I said, this is only theoretical, and for discussion only at this stage.

    • #5
      I'd like to make a poll like some other forums do.
      have you run deca only cycles with success...
      yes
      no
      can an admin make this happen?J.Archer
      it seems to be one of the most disputed points on all steroid forums.
      once I get some coin I will buy some deca and try this for myself.
      anyone wanna sponsor me???

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      • J.Archer
        J.Archer commented
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        I will make one now and tag you in it

      • J.Archer
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      • Hertderg
        Hertderg commented
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        My concern with the Deca only cycle is the lack of androgenicity. Whilst its binding affinity is huge, it has little to no androgenicity, hence adding a little Tren purely for the androgenicity effect, without the estrogenic effects of test.
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